The twenty-third episode of GREAT PODVERSATIONS features investigative journalist and author Barton Gellman speaking with Washington Post journalist Ellen Nakashima about Mr. Gellman’s book, Dark Mirror: Edward Snowden and the American Surveillance State.
BARTON GELLMAN, a staff writer at The Atlantic, is the author most recently of Dark Mirror: Edward Snowden and the American Surveillance State and the bestselling Angler: The Cheney Vice Presidency. He is a senior fellow at The Century Foundation, and he has been a lecturer at Princeton University, and visiting research collaborator at Princeton’s Center for Information Technology Policy.
Dark Mirror is Barton’s deep dive into the machinery of the surveillance state. It’s a true-life spy-tale of a government leak unrivaled in scope and drama.
The New York Times praises, “Engrossing. . . . Gellman [is] a thorough, exacting reporter . . . a marvelous narrator for this particular story, as he nimbly guides us through complex technical arcana and some stubborn ethical questions. . . . Dark Mirror would be simply pleasurable to read if the story it told didn’t also happen to be frighteningly real.”
Before joining The Atlantic, Gellman spent 21 years at The Washington Post, where he served tours as legal, diplomatic, military and Middle East correspondent.
Gellman anchored the team that won the 2014 Pulitzer Prize for Public Service for coverage of the National Security Agency and Edward Snowden. He was previously awarded the 2008 Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting for a series on Vice President Dick Cheney. In 2002, he was a member of the team that won the Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting for coverage of the 9/11 attacks and their aftermath. Other professional honors include two George Polk Awards, two Overseas Press Club awards, two Emmy awards for a PBS Frontline documentary, Harvard’s Goldsmith Prize for Investigative Reporting and The Los Angeles Times’ Book Prize.
ELLEN NAKASHIMA is a national security reporter for The Washington Post who writes about cyber, intelligence and related issues. In 2018, she and her colleagues won a Pulitzer Prize for coverage of Russia’s efforts to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. In 2014, she was part of a team awarded a Pulitzer for reporting on the hidden scope of National Security Agency surveillance and its policy implications. Since joining The Post in 1995, she also has served as a Southeast Asia correspondent and reported on the White House and Virginia politics.
- Dark Mirror: Edward Snowden and the American Surveillance State by Barton Gellman
- Edward Snowden
- Laura Poitras
- Glenn Greenwald
- Angler: The Cheney Vice Presidency by Barton Gellman
- The FBI’s Secret Scrutiny by Barton Gellman
- TS/SCI Clearance
- Cryptographic signature
- Bob Litt
- Julie Tate
- FISA Court
Original air date: 6/4/2021
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